Jose Canseco was not only an unapologetic steroid user, he actually advocated for them. “Steroids, used correctly, will not only make you stronger and sexier, they will also make you healthier,” he said in his memoir. “Steroids will give you a better quality of life and also drastically slow down the aging process.”

When athletes use steroids it really is a big fat middle finger to their fans — it’s like saying integrity and fan opinions don’t matter as long as it all ends in a win. But that’s not the only thing Canseco did to his fans — he threatened them, he hurled profanities at them, and he charged kids for autographs, too, although sometimes he also sent his twin brother to pretend to be him at signings and other places. According to the New York Times, he once threatened to bash in a fan’s head. Canseco incorrectly thought the fan was making racial comments. (Other fans had evidently not been so kind.) And regardless, it’s sorta on you to not try to get into fights with your fans. During another incident, Canseco pointed to a heckling fan and challenged him to a fight.

And Canseco’s Reddit “Ask Me Anything” is full of all kinds of stories about general nastiness, including rude, demanding behavior at restaurants, snubbing kids seeking autographs, and threatening to shoot his neighbor’s dog. So just a nice guy all around, that Canseco.

Tiger Woods was the darling of golf, the guy everyone rooted for, heck, the guy that made people actually like golf — right up until everyone realized he was a total jerk.

Examples are too many to list, really — there was that one time Woods was so rude to the staff of a small private airport that one observer felt compelled to write a scathing letter of admonishment. And the time when he was a jerk to Bill Clinton during a round of golf. And that other time when the owner of a home that Woods and some other golfers were renting tried to introduce herself and Woods just walked right past her extended hand like she wasn’t there.

And there’s more general bad behavior, like the fact that he completely ignores his fans and answers tough questions from the media with an icy glare rather than thoughtful words. Following a back surgery and his life very publicly imploding, Woods might be trying a little harder, though. “Before this year, I had never seen him reciprocate any of the fist bumps or high-fives that children in the gallery offer him when he’s walking between holes,” one journalist wrote in April 2018. “And yet one can’t help but question whether these changes too are a product of the same old carefully constructed PR operation.”

Either way, though, it’s okay because ex-coach Hank Haney says Woods isn’t responsible for his own behavior. “He doesn’t try to be a jerk,” he said. “He just doesn’t get it.”

Most star athletes are remembered for their game first, and their personality second. John McEnroe is one of the few athletes who is remembered like this: “Oh yeah, that guy was a jerk. What sport did he play again?”

Tennis star John McEnroe was known for his volatile temper, which he often directed at fans. In fact during his career, news stories about McEnroe dedicated almost as much time to his tantrums as to his game. According to Salon, in 2000 McEnroe questioned a lines call during a game, and when a heckler shouted, “C’mon, Mac, not already!” McEnroe turned around and replied, “You got an appointment to get to?” and then “What the f*ck do you care?”

That was tame compared to some of the things McEnroe said in the years leading up to that point, though. In 1987 during a match with German star Boris Becker, McEnroe insulted the French when a spectator shouted “you can’t trust a frog” to a French umpire and McEnroe replied, “You better believe it.” Then he insulted the Germans when he told a fan to “go eat some more sauerkraut,” and then he insulted people of African descent when he came at a black linesman with the words, “I didn’t know they had black Germans.” So the dude is not just a jerk to his fans, he’s also kinda racist. Nice.

Tyrus Cobb played for the Tigers way back in the early 1900s, an innocent time when racism and jerkish behavior were totally cool and being a dirty player was mostly something you could get away with. According to the Metro Times, one of Cobb’s most famous little quirks was his habit of sharpening his cleats and then aiming them at opposing players every time he slid into base. In his most famous incident of violence, he beat a heckler and stomped all over the poor guy with his sharpened cleats. Worse, his victim wasn’t able to defend himself because he’d lost one hand and most of the other in an industrial accident. When spectators shouted “that man has no hands!” Cobb’s reply was, “I don’t care if he got no feet!”

In those days, the media preferred to defend the star over the guy the star pummeled — the New York Tribune called it “a well-deserved beating,” which probably didn’t do anything to help Cobb learn the error of his ways and strive to become a better person.

Cobb did some other nasty stuff, too — his temper was legendary and the dude was also an unapologetic racist. In 1907 he attacked a black groundskeeper because he thought the guy’s friendly greeting was “too familiar.” So there really wasn’t much about him that was redeemable, anyway.

Michael Jordan is an outsized star with an outsized ego — to know that, you just have to listen to his 2009 Hall of Fame acceptance speech, in which he spent 23 minutes mocking his family, airing past grievances, and throwing sarcasm at the Hall of Fame itself. His ego also appears to be a source of conflict with his fans, too. When Jordan met rapper Chamillionaire, who’d just spent $7,000 at a charity auction to buy one of Jordan’s jerseys, he was an especial jerk and didn’t seem to care how many people knew it.

According to Boombox, Chamillionaire approached Jordan at a party and said, “I don’t mean to be rude, but Mike, I just wanted to know if I could get a picture,” and Jordan said, “I ain’t taking pictures with no n***a.” Chamillionaire then tried to diffuse the situation by explaining how he’d just bought one of Jordan’s jerseys for $7,000, and Jordan hit back with “You know what, I tell you what, you pay $15,000 right now for a jersey from me and I’ll take a picture with you.” So yeah, he’s that kind of jerk.